Dr Ray Jansen is a Director of the African Pangolin Working Group, the Chairman of the APWG and a member of the IUCN Species Survival Commission Pangolin Specialist Group as well as a full Professor in the Department of Environmental, Water and Earth Sciences at the Tshwane University of Technology. We talk about his work with pangolin as well the complex issues around wildlife management, from rhino to grouse. An in-depth, science-focused discussion, it offers an enlightening, pragmatic view on many topics. Intro: 0 - 17min 40sec
Ray: 17min 40sec - 1hr 51min
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